What IS Scientology exactly??

topic posted Sat, April 26, 2008 - 10:56 AM by  Mona
It's an honest, sincere question. I'm NOT looking to convert or anything - I just want to gain a better understanding of what Scientology really is. There's fanatics on the one side, and fanatic opponents on the other side. Then there's me in the middle, being very sceptic about Scientology, but still without a clear awareness of what it means to be a Scientologist. So far I have been able to understand that it's not so much a religion as it is a way of thinking? It's supposed to alter the way you think about things or something..?
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Mona
Norway
  • Re: What IS Scientology exactly??

    Sat, April 26, 2008 - 7:12 PM
    You might start by reading "Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health". I've seen copies in thrift stores. You can probably obtain it from any book dealer. As far as I know it remains in print. That will give you a good idea of what caused things to really take off and what has drawn a lot of people to the CofS.
    • Re: What IS Scientology exactly??

      Sat, April 26, 2008 - 9:21 PM
      www.xenu.net/

      www.scientology.org/index.html

      www.shipbrook.com/jeff/CoS/...anson.html

      and for those who have family in bipolar situations

      www.napanews.com/templates/printurl.cfm

      www.solitarytrees.net/racism/racism.htm (but if you have money, there is none)

      weyr.argentcross.org/scieno/...ason.htm ( a nice story)

      yes, there is propaganda, but I believe most of us have brain cells to sift through the flower
      I can find more entertaining videos but hey, google is awesome, I think you will enjoy figuring out what you find.
      • Re: What IS Scientology exactly??

        Fri, May 2, 2008 - 2:42 PM
        Wow thanks you two, espeially you Lisa for all the links. I guess I should gain a better awareness from all of this.
        • Re: What IS Scientology exactly??

          Fri, May 2, 2008 - 5:14 PM
          I consider it a form of Organized Crime under the guise of religion...
          • Re: What IS Scientology exactly??

            Sat, May 3, 2008 - 8:34 AM
            Lol, yeah I think that might be an accurate way to look at it.
            • Re: What IS Scientology exactly??

              Sat, May 3, 2008 - 9:20 AM
              >>I consider it a form of Organized Crime under the guise of religion...<<

              you could pretty much use this as a description of any institutionalized belief system.
              • Re: What IS Scientology exactly??

                Sat, May 3, 2008 - 9:35 AM
                Agreed!
                • Re: What IS Scientology exactly??

                  Sat, May 3, 2008 - 8:24 PM
                  >>>you could pretty much use this as a description of any institutionalized belief system.<<<

                  I concur -- but in this case it was intentional from the get go more so then just about any other institutionalized belief system...
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                    Re: What IS Scientology exactly??

                    Sat, May 3, 2008 - 9:17 PM
                    I don't agree

                    but I'm staying out of it because I want my "visual" of Loki to remain the same in my head
                    • Re: What IS Scientology exactly??

                      Sun, May 4, 2008 - 6:42 AM
                      i don't agree either.....but i do agree that scientology sucks.
                      • Re: What IS Scientology exactly??

                        Sun, May 4, 2008 - 5:14 PM
                        Whenever a person or agency says "Give us money and the ghosts will leave you alone" or "you'll get into Heaven" or any other belief-oriented construct, I have to view that as a con - no matter how sincere the plants might be.

                        I'm *not* saying "all religion is a farce". I'm saying "religious institutions are cons". This is because of the observable fact that no amount of money is enough to bribe ghosts or God into doing anything, anything except ignoring us.

                        People with deep or potent spirituality are my favorite people. Please don't get the idea that I'm a bitter cynic toward belief - it's that I'm fiercely protective of exactly that same demographic and I hate HATE hate for my loved ones to be harmed.

                        Churches that ask for money do harm. Take the religion *out* of the edifice and *in* to the heart. Use it, don't be used by it.

                        That's also why I'm protective of cults - by far the majority of cults are 100% innocuous and non-harmful groups. They are persecuted because they *don't* follow the predatory and materialistic models of religious institutions. They look weird and don't do the same rituals as Christians or Jews so they're seen as bad -

                        - sort of like people treat 'alts' and other spicy online personalities -

                        Institutions that grow beyond a group of people that all know one another and begin to take in revenue are *cons*. I beg you reconsider my point and see what I'm saying (and what I'm not saying), because involvement in these cons is deadly, deadly to human beings at large.

                        If you think I'm saying "your church sucks" *please* understand that that is *not* what I'm saying (especially if you know everyone that's involved with the management of your church personally).
                        • Re: What IS Scientology exactly??

                          Thu, May 8, 2008 - 11:01 PM
                          ALL religious institutions started out as cults. And they ALL have the potential for harm. Blindly following any charismatic person is foolish.

                          Question any one who tells you not to question.

                          True spirituality is a feeling of connectedness to some thing beyond the mundane, not a belief.

                          This is an amazing movie on the subject.

                          www.zeitgeistmovie.com/main.htm
                          THERE SEEM TO BE PROBLEMS WITH GOOGLE VIDEO PLAYBACK.
                          IF THE FILM STARTS AT A RANDOM SPOT, PLEASE REFRESH THE PAGE. ***
                          [ The timecode on the far right should read 2:02:15 ]
                          • Re: What IS Scientology exactly??

                            Thu, May 15, 2008 - 9:10 AM
                            >>ALL religious institutions started out as cults. And they ALL have the potential for harm. Blindly following any charismatic person is foolish.

                            Question any one who tells you not to question.

                            True spirituality is a feeling of connectedness to some thing beyond the mundane, not a belief. <<

                            Hallelustuff!
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    Re: What IS Scientology exactly??

    Mon, June 2, 2008 - 1:44 PM
    In my opinion. Scientology is one of the A..h.l. c..nt face cults which one does not openly insult for fear of retribution. I was attracted to their theory of Dianetics in Sydney back in 1990 because I came from a broken family and couldn't understand why I was so angry. Anyway, I did one of their personality tests and I was 'conned' to join because I felt that I had nothing else in life to do and my fucked up family didn't care what I did (low self esteem) but mum (or mom) was working behind the scenes to have me expelled from scientolog, which she successfully did. I had signed an agreement which stated that if I left (blew) scientology then I would owe scientology $50 000 AU. I was stupid for signing, but vulnerable and I felt very lost at the time. I worked below ground level in a smelly place where a weird idiot New Zealand scientologist bitch who kept a kitten or kittens and their shit stank the floor out. I wrote letters for these people on an old fashioned type writer. I just needed to belong and to be accepted because that mattered back then. I wasn't fussy enough because I couldn't be unless I were to be a hermit. I blame my community very much. They don't care about the underdog. They are bastards and I hate them to this day but I am away from that coastal community and I am away from all cults and my 'asshole' relatives.. for keeps. I am fed up with all religion too. The world is full of creeps. I've met my share and I am not against such people dying in agony. Thanks for reading.

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