I've read all of your posts and NONE of you know a thing about which you speak. I will be happy to correct you if any of you are brave enough to have their inconsistancies pointed-out to them.
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  • Lets see you take this one on. Jesse Prince, a high executive, who was Hubbards auditor uplines in Hemit Ca wrote a signed affidavit that Hubbard was losing his mind and screaming "Body Thetans" due to his Schitzophrenia ,which he was diagnosed with in the 40's after his short stint with the Navy. You can see a hand wriitten letter from Hubbard to one of his psychiatrists begging for help because his mental state was worsening. I can find that letter online for you and it is authentic.... I know his handwriting.. after more that 15 years in there.
    Also he mentions Hubbard being on xanax and psychotropics for his derrangement. Please reply with facts not any brain washing, robatic rebuttals that never change. (I know them all)
    I can also show you facts about his discharge from the navy for negligible conduct and proof of his lies about being wounded in combat. I have seen his medical reports from the hospital stating he had severe ulsers and mental disorders. I have many more you can try to take on. Lets see your facts on these..miss "one handed"..
  • Has anyone gone to this guys page? He is not a Scientologist. He's a complete babbleling idiot, I assume alcoholic cause he goes on and on, on how drunk he was at some party. He admits to taking acid "A" and pain killers. He also mentions meditating, all of this is clearly and strongly, not allowed in there ..oh except the dirty mouth..Scios swear like truck drivers. He admits to taking "A" and eating a sandwich "high" with the tin foil.. They are so against drugs that if you were to let them kinow you would be kicked out instantly, especially acid. Meditating is considered "mixing practices" Mr "single handed" besides being a luny and all over the map, is a bit illiterate, ..check out his spelling and sentence structure.. and sounds like a sexist calling women bitches. Just another pseudo Scio hypocrite with not a SINGLE brain in his head.
    Linda
  • I'd like to see you try.
    • oooh this shall be fun


      • Well good for you Linda, you took some time to do research, although I AM working on "going clear". The acid was given to me by some funny Jews from Canada. Don't have a clue about meditating other than perhaps you read the part of my summer's blog where some bitch drew a swastika on my forehead when I was loaded. YES THAT MAKES HER A BITCH. And I said perhaps that's what I get for NOT meditating for world-peace.

        The other stuff you read undoubtedly is excerpts of posts where I'm arguing with all of the hypocrite feminist chicks. You want to see the long-assed threads go look at them.

        I always wanted to be in the "Sea Org" though.


        Swaz
        • Re: Scientologist takes you all on single handed

          Wed, August 1, 2007 - 2:44 AM
          If the point in posting is to start a flame war, fine but you will not get any [url=uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Main...Lulz[/url] here. If you want to show your bravado by making us wrong, then go ahead, but I refuse to play, and I suggest that no one else does as well.

          With that in mind, I suggest that you stay far away from the church. If you want better tech join [url=www.freezone.org/e_toc.htm...zone[url]. There are many problems with the church, From the ethics games they play. For example, the CoS plays the game "Win at all costs/everyone else lose" . Basically they make others wrong my making self right.

          As for L.Ron he was working with dangerous polarities, i.e. the Spiritual Survival vs. Physical Death. These and many other polarity's can be found by looking into the Odu of Ifa. A lot of the techs in the CoS are dangerous, incomplete, or re-written for the purpose of brainwashing. I'm a student of the occult, so I'm no expert. So before you decide to throw you life away, look into other sources of info.
          • Re: Scientologist takes you all on single handed

            Wed, August 1, 2007 - 11:26 AM

            Hey Shane,

            My only intent was to draw you guys out and have a little fun. That aside, I'd like to burn-down every Scientology recruitment place in the world. Some crazy DID actually go into one of them in Portland about ten years ago. He shot the place up and set it on fire. I was quite pleased to say the less.

            As to the occult and whatnot. Few people have heard of "The Process" altenately known as "The Temple of Final Judgement" or "The 4P Movement" all basically the same and ran by a charismatic occultist named Robert DeGrimston. When Charles Manson hit San Fran in the late 60's he hung out with these people, all of whom had met through Scientology. All of Manson's rap that you've every heard has been plagarized from 4P texts.

            After August 69 they boogied on down to Mexico to lay low and eventualy reconstituted in NYC. After a few years there they got David Berkowitz (Som of Sam) to run around with them and sacrafice people. That's why all of the eyewitness drawings were so different. Anyway Berk was their fall guy. And it may be interesting to know that it has been alledged that Robert Maplethorpe, the now deceased artist from there, recorded one of the 4P hits on film. After that, two more people were killed to recover it.

            Read "Ultimate Evil" by Maury Terry for the full skinny.

            Swaz

            • Re: Scientologist takes you all on single handed

              Thu, August 2, 2007 - 11:59 PM
              *July 1970 - Satanist Stanley Baker is convicted in the cannibal- slaying of a Montana resident. He confesses other crimes, committed as a member of the "Four P" cult - a spinoff from the Process Church of Final Judgment - and bloody fingerprints link Baker to another homicide in San Francisco, but California courts bar prosecution on a claim that he has been denied a "speedy trial." Paroled in 1985, he is at large today.


              www.francesfarmersrevenge.com/stu....htm
            • Re: Scientologist takes you all on single handed

              Fri, August 3, 2007 - 8:01 AM
              A book about Charles Manson, "The Family", claimed that Manson was a member of The Process. The Church obtained apologies and retractions to the book after it brought about a suit against the publisher. Because of the time it took to bring about the retractions, a large portion of book sales had occurred; so many of the books (without retractions) are on shelves today. The connection between Manson and the Process has not completely been corrected. Manson was never a registered member of The Process. A group of Processeans visited him in prison and confirmed that he had never been involved in the local Chapter.

              More recently, a book was published that claimed a second mass murderer, David Berkowitz, the "Son of Sam" was also a member of The Process. The book stated that The Process was a network of killers and that Berkowitz was a look-out who did not take part in all of the killings. This conflicts with the police investigators who believed that Berkowitz was operating on his own. If they thought otherwise, the police certainly would have investigated the Church. Berkowitz claimed to have been a Satanist, and to have converted to Evangelical Christianity in prison. He claimed that the "Sam" in "Son of Sam" came from the name of the Celtic God of the Dead, Samhain (which he pronounced "Sam-hane"). His story is suspect, because:
              his pronunciation of "Samhain" is incorrect;
              the Celts never worshiped a God of the Dead;
              there is no Celtic God by the name of Samhain;
              Satanists do not worship Celtic Gods, and
              the Process Church no longer existed at the time of the Son of Sam murders.

              www.religioustolerance.org/process.htm
              • Re: Scientologist takes you all on single handed

                Fri, August 3, 2007 - 8:23 AM

                Hey Ali, you think people like the Matamoros Cult Killers advertise? 4P may be dead now but was very active in NYC in the mid 70's.
                • Re: Scientologist takes you all on single handed

                  Fri, August 3, 2007 - 9:17 AM
                  i'm always interested in sourced info...

                  or at least an intimation of where you got that idea.
                  • This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.

                    Re: Scientologist takes you all on single handed

                    Fri, August 3, 2007 - 10:02 AM

                    I have all four of the Process publications they ever produced, LOVE, WAR, FEAR and HATE.
                    I have "The Gods and Their People" transcript recorded by Robert DeGrimston.
                    I Have Bainbridges thesis on The Process.
                    And I know a bit about the guy who took over Manson's role after he was incarcerated. He went by M2 and is named William Mentzer. He's the chap that dismembered a woman in the chapel at Stanford University in the summer of 1974. He is Now on San Quintin's Death Row for murders related to the flop film "The Cotton Club".

                    I'd say I know a bit more on 4P than most.
                    • Re: Scientologist takes you all on single handed

                      Fri, August 3, 2007 - 10:54 AM
                      <<I'd say I know a bit more on 4P than most.>>

                      good for you.

                      now, i'll ask the obvious question. why? are you into cults?

                      or just nursing an adolescent thanatos complex?
                      • Re: Scientologist takes you all on single handed

                        Fri, August 3, 2007 - 11:21 AM

                        I have hundreds of books on death, gore, strange diseases, serial killers, cannibalism, torture, necrophilia, human sacrafice, self-mutilation, genocide, juntas, dictators, vampires, and nuts of every color. I didn't invent the human condition and don't necessarily find an interest in it as adolescent. Oh and yes, cults and mind-control are interesting as well.

                        Look up The Solar Temple and get back to me either privately or start a new thread. This one is geting off track and scatterbrained.
                        • Re: Scientologist takes you all on single handed

                          Fri, August 3, 2007 - 11:34 AM
                          <<I didn't invent the human condition and don't necessarily find an interest in it as adolescent.>>

                          ahem... my mistake. it just seems your interest in the human condition is confined to one side.

                          as for the solar temple, now what... we going to link the process to the oto to the masons to the templars to the hashishin to the silk road to the initiators of tibet to ... the beach boys and the beatles?

                          puh-leeze.

                          <<This one is geting off track and scatterbrained.>>
                          i thought this was the thread where you were going to take us all on single-handedly. i thought my post applied.
                          • HEY EVERYONE! LETS ARGUE!

                            Fri, August 3, 2007 - 12:43 PM

                            The subject header was a joke. That was explained already.

                            My suggestion about the Solar Temple was an attempt to change the subject to a different cult, (I am on a few different cult tribes) and start a different thread. But I guess every sinew of your being is still saturated with Elron.

                            You are boring me now and my reactionary mind is telling me that it wants you to shut up. But the Thetans are keeping me from telling you that. So If you read anything like that it wasn't me. I was actually off being audited at the time.

                            (yawn)

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